Flat tops with the fixed front site post...
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Replied by Sharkey on topic Flat tops with the fixed front site post...
You know, the battle sights found on a standard M16.
I'm just wondering about scoping a rifle like that is all but if it's a "co-witness" thing then I get it but if I was going to get one with a fixed front sight post like the one pictured, I'd figure I might as well just get it with the carry handle as well...
But that's me and, well, you know me....
I'm just wondering about scoping a rifle like that is all but if it's a "co-witness" thing then I get it but if I was going to get one with a fixed front sight post like the one pictured, I'd figure I might as well just get it with the carry handle as well...
But that's me and, well, you know me....
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Replied by MrMarty51 on topic Flat tops with the fixed front site post...
HHHHMMMMMmmmm, inneresting to say duh leasht.
Something else to watch out for of the day ever comes that I could afford another AR type of a rifle.
Mine AR does have the carry handle and fixedated fron site. I often times wish that it was a flat top so that the scope could be mounted lower.
I had never given it a thought about how a fixedated fron site could possibly innerfere wit a scope mounted to duh flatt topp.
Maybe, after I git this cabeenut finished installing in duh garudge, I then wilt be able to gut to duh safe, get the AR10 out, sort of lay a scope alongkside a it, sort of point the scopeing in duh direction of duh fron postum site an see if I can visualize duh fron site in a duh scope.
Prolly be just a blur, I`ll try an set the scope on a lowest az plossible settingk, see whutum looksum likeum.
Might be a day or two cause I works kinda sloooow, sorta likes Mine typingk.
Something else to watch out for of the day ever comes that I could afford another AR type of a rifle.
Mine AR does have the carry handle and fixedated fron site. I often times wish that it was a flat top so that the scope could be mounted lower.
I had never given it a thought about how a fixedated fron site could possibly innerfere wit a scope mounted to duh flatt topp.
Maybe, after I git this cabeenut finished installing in duh garudge, I then wilt be able to gut to duh safe, get the AR10 out, sort of lay a scope alongkside a it, sort of point the scopeing in duh direction of duh fron postum site an see if I can visualize duh fron site in a duh scope.
Prolly be just a blur, I`ll try an set the scope on a lowest az plossible settingk, see whutum looksum likeum.
Might be a day or two cause I works kinda sloooow, sorta likes Mine typingk.
Things is moving fast now.
What`ll You say when Jesus asks, Why did`nt You read My book ???
What`ll You say when Jesus asks, Why did`nt You read My book ???
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Replied by Sharkey on topic Flat tops with the fixed front site post...
I was thinking it must be a co-witness thing. Thanks for the details.... 
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Replied by Lizardette on topic Flat tops with the fixed front site post...
My DPMS LR-308 is set up that way.
Basically it goes like this:
- I like the most rigidly attached iron sights that I can get. If there'd been an AR10A2 available, I would have gotten one. So, I settled for having only the front sight permanently mounted.
- I do have a detachable carry handle, and it works pretty well. The fact that I can switch between the carry handle and a scope is a bonus.
- Until you get down to maybe 2.5x, you don't see the front sight base through the scope (even with a low mounted scope). It looks weird from the side, but it works when you've got it at your shoulder.
The way that I had it set up originally was with a folding rear sight and a quick-detachable scope mount. I primarily used the scope, but if it ever got damaged (that actually happened once) or if I needed to rule out the scope as a factor in some accuracy related issue (that's happened too), I could remove it and flip up the rear iron sight and keep shooting. I left it zeroed for 200 yards with the load I used most, and it worked.
Basically, having the railed flat-top receiver added some versatility to the rifle, and it's served me well. Now, I've gone back to having the carry handle mounted - so it would be legal for use as a Service Rifle in NRA (not CMP) High-Power. If I wanted a red-dot (with or without a magnifier) on it , I could co-witness it with the front sight and either a fixed or folding rear-sight if I wanted. It wouldn't make a lot of sense on a 20" heavy barrel/A2 stock, but I *could* do it - maybe for a three-gun competition or something.
The bottom line as I see it is three-fold. It's more stable than a folding (or fixed detachable type) front sight. It's always up and ready to use. It doesn't get in the way near as much as you'd think.
Basically it goes like this:
- I like the most rigidly attached iron sights that I can get. If there'd been an AR10A2 available, I would have gotten one. So, I settled for having only the front sight permanently mounted.
- I do have a detachable carry handle, and it works pretty well. The fact that I can switch between the carry handle and a scope is a bonus.
- Until you get down to maybe 2.5x, you don't see the front sight base through the scope (even with a low mounted scope). It looks weird from the side, but it works when you've got it at your shoulder.
The way that I had it set up originally was with a folding rear sight and a quick-detachable scope mount. I primarily used the scope, but if it ever got damaged (that actually happened once) or if I needed to rule out the scope as a factor in some accuracy related issue (that's happened too), I could remove it and flip up the rear iron sight and keep shooting. I left it zeroed for 200 yards with the load I used most, and it worked.
Basically, having the railed flat-top receiver added some versatility to the rifle, and it's served me well. Now, I've gone back to having the carry handle mounted - so it would be legal for use as a Service Rifle in NRA (not CMP) High-Power. If I wanted a red-dot (with or without a magnifier) on it , I could co-witness it with the front sight and either a fixed or folding rear-sight if I wanted. It wouldn't make a lot of sense on a 20" heavy barrel/A2 stock, but I *could* do it - maybe for a three-gun competition or something.
The bottom line as I see it is three-fold. It's more stable than a folding (or fixed detachable type) front sight. It's always up and ready to use. It doesn't get in the way near as much as you'd think.
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