Evening. I have a Ruger SR-762 and the factory trigger breaks at about seven pounds with quite a bit of creep ( gritty ). I am thinking about replacing the trigger but cannot decide between the Timney - AR-10, small pin, four pound trigger at about $235.00 ; or
the Geissele, Super Semi Automatic Enhanced Trigger at about $230.00. Both units are well respected by different people and I am not able to find a reasonable comparison between the two. The two stage Geissele sounds very interesting for long range shooting but then so does the Timney which is also a very compact easy to install one piece package. If anyone out there has one of these units please give me your impression. Thanks and stay safe !
Replied by NightForce on topic Trigger Selection ?
Hey Bill,
I have a Timney trigger in one of my bolt guns and it works pretty well.
About 18 months ago I had the opportunity to try out the Geissele's SSA and SSA-E triggers now let me tell you!
First, I was very impressed with the actual design of this trigger. Everything about it is first class and well machined. All of the contact surfaces are polished to a mirror and appears to be hardened prior to finished grinding and polishing.
Each trigger group comes with centerless ground pins machined and polished to +/- 0.0002...Extremely accurate. Also included is a push pin to aid it assembling...and it does just that. Installing these triggers is really a breeze.
Geissele SSA
This is a great trigger. The design allows me to feel its action and break but when it breaks it does so it's predictable and very safe...I would call this a premium combat trigger.
Geissele SSA-E
I like this trigger and and this is the one I've chosen for all my AR's including the current AR-10 build.
The SSA-E is so smooth with the second stage breaking at about 1 1/2 to 2 pounds "I think" The break on this trigger is crisp, almost a glass-like break with no discernible creep. Very consistent, very crisp, and absolutely the best AR trigger for precision work either in the field or off the bench...
Replied by faawrenchbndr on topic Trigger Selection ?
I have a Timney skeleton in one rifle and a few have the SSA triggers from Geissele.
Both are simply outstanding.........if I had toy pick, the Geissele gets the edge.
Over the years I have used a couple of different brands of enhanced triggers in my AR platform rifles. But I replaced them all with Geisseles.
I have the more expensive Hi-Speed National Match - Designated Marksman Rifle (DMR) Trigger and the Hi-Speed National Match - Match Rifle Trigger in my older rifles. These were the earlier models and they are still available but I think the SSA and the SSA-E have displaced them in popularity. The difference between the Hi-Speed and the SSAs is that the SSAs are not adjustable.
Regarding the SSA vs. the SSA-E here is the difference per Geissele's website:
"The Geissele SSA has a pull weight of about 4.5lb. 2.5 lbs on the first stage and 2lb on the second stage."
"The Geissele SSA-E has a pull weight of about 3.5 lbs. There
is 2.3 lbs. on the 1st stage and 1.2 lbs. on the 2nd stage."
Personally if I were buying one today it would be an SSA or SSA-E depending on which trigger weight I want. I really like the National Match triggers I have but for me they are overkill now that the SSA and SSA-E are available. Also no adjustments means a simpler more reliable design.
One more comment/thought. Many will just think the lighter trigger weight is "better". In my view that is simplistic wrong headed thinking. Think about your application and use patterns before you buy. A heavier recoiling rifle may be better served with the heavier trigger since the possibility of a recoil induced double tap is higher with the lighter trigger.
The second stage was set too light so I snugged it down a bit. I think now that it will be about perfect for Me.
Maybe, after I get to shooting a lot, I might reset it to a lighter second stage again.
I really like the Geissle triggers.
My 30-338 has a "Timney Sportsman" that seems to be a mighty fine unit too, but, I prefer a two stage setup and I may be changing that trigger out, either for a Timney or a Geissele.
Things is moving fast now.
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Replied by NightForce on topic Trigger Selection ?
I too have tried the ALG trigger and was very impressed with how crisp this single stage trigger really is. For $65.00 it's definitely worth the price...
Train regularly with a light trigger, under stress you revert to training and muscle memory.
My vote is for the Geissele Super Dynamic, the flat trigger bow adds a new dimension to shooting.
Press high on the trigger and you have a very quick trigger for rapid shots.
Press low and you have a more sensitive trigger for longer shots.
IMHO 3.5 lbs (SD-E) trigger weight is just about right on a 2 stage.
5 lbs on a single stage can be a bit light depending on over travel and reset.
I judge safety factor on how much effort it takes to induce doubling. If I get doubling just by getting a little sloppy shooting casually that is a red flag. If I have to use a little technique to induce a double... triple... mag dump... that's another issue.
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