Accuracy question...
Replied by jtallen83 on topic Accuracy question...
For a 20 round group I'd say that is damn fine! I almost always get a flyer that opens it up. Are you letting it cool down between shots or just laying them down? Myself I just can't seem to take the slow road. Thanks for the range report 
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Replied by jtallen83 on topic Accuracy question...
To me that is a true test of accuracy, shoot it like you'd use it! I've watched many people on the range wait 3 or 4 minutes between shots,that's fine for some but I like to let it fly as soon as I feel I'm back on target. I have always figured that the time it takes me to walk down range and check the target then load another magazine is long enough to wait between groups, but then I'm not known for patience.
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I have lots of experience putting multiple magazines into a single group at 100 yards. Let me tell you, anybody with an "accurate" gun and good ammunition can put 3 rounds into an inch or less. I don't consider that valid for anything but a hunting rifle. I like seeing five shot groups, but I'm not really impressed until someone shows me a group of 10+ shots.
Like this:
That's a standard NRA 200 yard target. I had it set up at 100 yards. That IS my M1C and I did use it to produce that group - using the rather wimpy (by comparison) 2.2x M84 telescope. I waited a second or two after reacquiring my target to send the next one down range. I waited in between clips just long enough to load up 8 more rounds and get them into the rifle.
That is actually a 40 shot group. The majority of it falls inside 2 inches. I'm very happy with that, mostly because the group didn't open up much at all as I went on. Also, I did no accurizing work to the rifle before shooting this group.
A more direct comparison though, would be this:
That's what my DPMS LR 308 will do with M118 Special Ball. I loaded five rounds at a time, spaced much like I did with the M1C. It's a group of 20 shots. Some discussion was going on in another forum about exactly how accurate M118 Special Ball was. So, that's where that came from. For reference, that's an 8 inch Shoot-N-See that was placed at 100 yards.
My DPMS will do better than that, with handloads and going slower on the trigger. In fact, it will produce groups near half that size. So, I'd be very happy with a group that size for that many shots.
Like this:
That's a standard NRA 200 yard target. I had it set up at 100 yards. That IS my M1C and I did use it to produce that group - using the rather wimpy (by comparison) 2.2x M84 telescope. I waited a second or two after reacquiring my target to send the next one down range. I waited in between clips just long enough to load up 8 more rounds and get them into the rifle.
That is actually a 40 shot group. The majority of it falls inside 2 inches. I'm very happy with that, mostly because the group didn't open up much at all as I went on. Also, I did no accurizing work to the rifle before shooting this group.
A more direct comparison though, would be this:
That's what my DPMS LR 308 will do with M118 Special Ball. I loaded five rounds at a time, spaced much like I did with the M1C. It's a group of 20 shots. Some discussion was going on in another forum about exactly how accurate M118 Special Ball was. So, that's where that came from. For reference, that's an 8 inch Shoot-N-See that was placed at 100 yards.
My DPMS will do better than that, with handloads and going slower on the trigger. In fact, it will produce groups near half that size. So, I'd be very happy with a group that size for that many shots.
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