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Boston Marathon, Bombs & Gun Control

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Replied by 13fcolt on topic Boston Marathon, Bombs & Gun Control

I see your point OC. True, we missed out on having the AR10 become standard issue due to such under table dealings. I'd like to see a side by side shoot myself.
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Replied by Charlie on topic Boston Marathon, Bombs & Gun Control


As I see it, the main problem is the low information voters. They get their "news" from NPR or PBS, or (worse) from CNN or MSNBC, and never realize that they're getting one slanted side of the story. Yellow journalism has never been so prominent in this country as it is today. The dumbing down of America plays a big factor in this too: Many of our citizens are incapable of analyzing a problem or evaluating different points of view. The old engineering rules of thumb, TLAR and TSAR, are completely foreign to them!

I'm a classical liberal, so of course I'm a registered Republican. And my folks were dirt farmers, sawmill men and cattle ranchers, so I have a degree in chemistry but I'm proud to be a redneck.

Labels don't always mean what we think they mean.

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Replied by Siscowet on topic Boston Marathon, Bombs & Gun Control

You have some wisdom there friend. I could go dig up half a dozen neighbors who people might think are liberal because they always vote Democratic, but farm and work their butt off to make a living, are fiscally conservative, and espouse self reliance. Where do they fit in the media catchalls? They don't. You hit the nail on the head. In their case they are from the old DFL as in Democratic Farm Labor party. Yet they have more in common with the Tea Party and Southern Republicans then they do the East Coast Democrats. My opinion is we need to dump both major parties and redefine political parties as standing for the people who belong to them, not the special interests that bank roll both of them. I am off my soap box now. :soapbox:
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Replied by 10-76 on topic Boston Marathon, Bombs & Gun Control

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Replied by foxhunter on topic Boston Marathon, Bombs & Gun Control

Given the events in the killing of one of the bombers last night, the younger brother on the loose, and the police telling everyone in Boston, etc to stay home and stay indoors, I bet more than a few antigun folks are wishing they had something more than a baseball bat to protect their homes. Could be interesting to see how this affects the gun debate and immigration. I guess they weren't "tea party radicals "after all, as Wolff Blitzer suggested after the attack.
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Replied by foxhunter on topic Boston Marathon, Bombs & Gun Control

Wickepedia says;
Liberalism, a political ideology
Classical liberalism, a political or social philosophy advocating the freedom of the individual, parliamentary systems of government, nonviolent modification of political, social, or economic institutions to assure unrestricted development in all spheres of human endeavor, and governmental guarantees of individual rights and civil liberties.
Conservative liberalism, a variant of liberalism, combining liberal values and policies with conservative stances, or, more simply, representing the right-wing of the liberal movement
Economic liberalism, the ideological belief in organizing the economy on individualist lines, such that the greatest possible number of economic decisions are made by private individuals and not by collective institutions
Social liberalism, the belief that liberalism should include social justice and that the legitimate role of the state includes addressing issues such as unemployment, health care, education, and the expansion of civil rights
An adherent of a Liberal party
Liberal democracy, a form of government based on limited majority rule
Liberal Democratic Party, a common name for political parties around the world
Liberalism (international relations), a theory of international relations
European liberalism
In the US, "liberalism" can refer to either or both of the following:
Modern liberalism, the current American manifestation of the ideology
Progressivism

Given the definitions of the above, I would suggest, that many of us that consider ourselves dihard conservatives, hold a lot of Liberal beliefs.
That being the case, what are the roots of our governments' ongoing endeavor to control our behavior regarding Gun control, business, health, itc. I would suggest in many ways it is closer to fascism.Some might say Socialism, but in my mind the two can be hard to differentiate.
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Replied by Dabu on topic Boston Marathon, Bombs & Gun Control

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Replied by Siscowet on topic Boston Marathon, Bombs & Gun Control

Couldn't have said it better myself. That is the problem with media labels, it misidentifies what people believe, and leads to prejudice and miscommunication. Bureacratic control of peoples everyday lives to me is the problem with both current parties, only in different ways.
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Replied by mrraley on topic Boston Marathon, Bombs & Gun Control

Saw this on another site and thought I'd share it

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"Attack the issue NOT the individual"

“Fix the problem, DON’T affix the blame”

"Prosecute the position, NOT the person"
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Replied by OleCowboy on topic Boston Marathon, Bombs & Gun Control

Texas was a Democrat state for a 100 years, my family was, I was up until the early 70's. So did my thinking change? NO! What changed was the party, not me, Texas is now hard Republican, so was my family.

I remember when the Democrats went to becoming Liberals, NOT all Democrats, but many, later they (the Liberals) not all Liberals left Liberalism behind, and began calling themselves Progressives. Now we are starting to see the early seeds of communist-socialist beginning to emerge from the Progressive camp.

Schumer, Frank, Reid, Feinstein, Dodds, where do you think they stand? Democrat, Liberal, Progressive, Socialist?

So chose your label wisely for you will be judged.
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